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Touhou Chireiden ~ Subterranean Animism has been annouced

東方地霊殿 ~ Subterranean Animism

Zun's blog has confirmed...http://kourindou.exblog.jp/7850454/

mediawiki_mass_delete.py

You might notice a dramatic increase in file deletions here in the wiki. Not only that, but most of them are done by a script that enters it's name as the deletion reason. This is all intentional. With the advent of gensokyo.org as the de-facto comic archive, keeping the pages also in the wiki is becoming redundant. I coded a small Python script that performs deletions on all images matching certain strings it finds, and have been using that to eradictate these comics after modifying the pages to point at gensokyo.org galleries.
Also, this talk page contained some old notes that might not be relevant anymore. I removed some of them, you can view them from the history if you really want to. --Trilkk 2008-02-11, 06:28 (EET)

Anti-Spam Mechanisms

1. Ensure that the MediaWiki anti-spam features are activated.

2. Experiment with third-party spamming countermeasures:


It's just plain ridiculous that people can't resist spamming certain pages, or any random page sometimes, with links to mass numbers of porn sites and whatever else. Since it's always a non-registered person to do it, can't there be a requirement that people sign up before they can edit pages? Another wiki for a website I used to be active on was like that and we never got spam. -Redpanda

Maybe, but the VJ Army wiki had mad spam from bots that just created random accounts, so the account creation process should be protected as well somehow if we do decide to go that route. --T. Solamarle 06:34, 20 August 2007 (PDT)

Who here has the power to delete pages? Now, we have pages that are either empty or contain nonsense as a result of spamming... I'd like to see them cast beyond the borders of the Wiki. --爆龍 00:17, 17 August 2007 (PDT)

My keen observations of Mystia are most certainly not nonsense. -Redpanda
(-_-); --爆龍 07:09, 17 August 2007 (PDT)

No really, it doesn't seem like the rampant idiocy is going to stop on its own any time soon. Sure, it's kind of pathetic that I can just brush aside whatever changes some loser makes, but because the IP keeps changing so quickly isn't it possible it's just a bot doing this and not a real person doing it hands on? If so, then it really won't stop until some sort of change is made and it's also more of a waste of my time than the time of some bot. -Redpanda

I only checked back the last 500 recent changes, but I have a big list of all the IP addresses that have posted spam during that time. Many of these have only made 1 spam edit, but some have made 20 or more. Blocking them all may cut down on the amount of trash that comes in every day. I was very careful to only copy down the anonymous user IP addresses that had posted spam, so I'm 99% sure that there aren't any legitimate users in this list. Is there any reason I shouldn't post this list right here?

Take 221.232.159.112 for example. For 4 days now this one address has been responsible for 23 of the spam posts. Blocking some of the ones like that should cut down on spam. -Redpanda

Is this place moderated at all? I should think that a moderator would have acted already, were there one around. --爆龍 00:10, 20 August 2007 (PDT)
It is moderated. If you want to have immediate results, I can be reached from IRC within a moment's notice. As was done now, when |7hs| informed me of this. I walked through the latest 500 modifications from non-registered users and blocked every single spammer, that totalled in 38 instances. I'll now delete the 100 or so pages that are requested for deleteion and do some other cleanup. Also, we might need more admins, I suggest you contact the mystery man if you want to be one. --Trilkk 2007-08-20, 13:10 (EET)
I haven't been on IRC in years and would need to redownload/setup a client for it, but anyways it's started again with 202.194.202.7. It seems this'll be an ongoing problem until the login/signup methods are changed. -Redpanda
There are 4 IPs that apparently hane't done any editing but ended up on the block list anyhow. 202.101.105.172, 218.127.124.215, 124.128.14.121 and 222.66.48.253. I'm all for registering before being allowed to make any changes, as it's less of an anoyance loging in each time I want to change something than seeing the recentpages full of spam posts. But the registering needs to be changed before that, it's just typing your name and pass and you are good to go. So without e-mail verification or something, the wiki would just move from random IPs to random user names. --Umhyuk
How about installing Extension:SpamBlacklist, then use the sysop-only Mediawiki:Spam-blacklist page to blacklist a few domains used in spam addresses? --ふのっふ! 08:29, 29 August 2007 (PDT)

The Anti-spam mechanism that restricts modifications containing "info" sites has resulted in the inability to edit the links section since it contains a link to the japanese thwiki site. For now it reads as 'thwikidotinfo' there until it can be fixed. Apparently adniminstrator powers were not enough to circumvent the issue. --User:Trilkk 20:22, 2007-10-12 (EET)

Another huge bunch (over 50) IPs blocked. Seriously, they're not going to run out of infected machines are they. The one named user that was listed as spammer has NOT been blocked (yet) because I couldn't find any edits by him. --User:Trilkk 03:25, 2007-11-05 (EET)

I remember that user uploading several porn related images that were deleted the same day, so that's probably why no edits are being shown. There's three images listed under the Special:Log (all of which now deleted) and one moved page from October 5 by that user. -Redpanda
If anyone's willing to hack the MW code to prevent external URL's from being mass added (esp. from external IPs or reg. users submitting their first edits), please go ahead.
The modus operandi of those bots is quite well known: edit a first time to see if the page is writeable, then spam. Too bad we don't have efficient anti-wiki-spam out of the box.
-- ふのっふ! 11:59, 11 November 2007 (PST)
I think it's getting worse over the last week. I don't recall recentchanges being that full of spam before. I just spent a good 5 minutes undoing changes. They're not even posting links, even after editing a page more than once. Trithne 19:34, 26 December 2007 (PST)
Here is the PHP source code for an anti-spam measure that http:// tanasinn . info implemented which is apparently somewhat effective. Consider giving it a try. -7HS 22:18, 5 January 2008 (PST)
Well, it looks like the bots are just registering for accounts now and bypassing the filter that way. Suggest we either modify bottrop so it's enabled even for registered users, or use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit to add a captcha for account registration. -76.126.138.255 23:26, 19 February 2008 (PST)

Extension request

Requesting that .rep files be allowed to be uploaded if possible. Currently, the wiki only allows .rpy files (replay extension) to be uploaded, and IaMP does not use .rpy files. -Ruka

Format Suggestions

  • I believe that it would be worth consideration to re-order the head page in the format used in the ZUN article, with the categories Games, Music Soundtracks, and Print. On that point, ZUN's article should almost certainly be linked to from the page.
Maybe. Moogy (talk) 06:29, 24 April 2007 (PDT)
Sounds good. Moogy (talk) 06:30, 24 April 2007 (PDT)
  • The Gensokyo Timeline article should be removed from the head page and placed within Gensokyo. Consider simply deleting Gensokyo Timeline after transferring all of the information therein to the now-barren Gensokyo article. This structuring would be far more reasonable.
Sounds good. Moogy (talk) 06:29, 24 April 2007 (PDT)
  • For the sake of accuracy all references to the 東方 Project should be written as "Touhou Project," rather than simply "Touhou" as it is now.
The English-speaking fandom simply refers to it as "Touhou." Leave it alone. Moogy (talk) 06:29, 24 April 2007 (PDT)
  • Please change the names of the games on the front page to match those given in their articles, i.e. The Highly Responsive to Prayers, The Embodiment of Scarlet Devil, etc. We need to decide whether or not the definite articles at the beginning of each should be capitalized.
Pretty minor, but it's always good to have consistent style. Moogy (talk) 06:29, 24 April 2007 (PDT)
  • In the game and manual the English title of 東方封魔録 is written as "The Story of 'HUMA' in Eastern Wonderland". The only official mention of the title "The Story of Eastern Wonderland" is at ZUN's old music page, which is no longer even connected to his site. A decision should be made on this point.
Might as well leave it alone, an admin would have to move tons of pages around if we changed what we refer to it as. Moogy (talk) 06:29, 24 April 2007 (PDT)
  • Consider a Support page or something of the like wherein Running in Linux as well as other troubleshooting information could be grouped, connected to the front page. Other information that would be suitable here: installation of Japanese fonts, setting Windows to display non-unicode characters in Japanese, usage of AppLocale, etc. You know, questions that we've had to answer a thousand times before.
Could add it to Help:Contents. Good idea. Moogy (talk) 06:29, 24 April 2007 (PDT)
Comics should be linked on the front page. Fiction is rather debatable. Touhou Angband should be linked on the fangames page only. Moogy (talk) 06:29, 24 April 2007 (PDT)
  • Contemplations could be linked to from the main page, especially because it is at this point the only center of Touhou Project discussion that remains. Don't really like the name of it, though. ヽ(  ̄д ̄;)ノ
That page is fairly pointless - nobody has edited in quite a while. Moogy (talk) 06:29, 24 April 2007 (PDT)


Well...make a page somewhere, and let's see what it looks like.

I made TouhouWiki:Main Page Redesign and it looks terrible, but that's probably my fault, not the basic idea's.
I made it look a bit better by removing some unnecessary links and messing with header alignments. Akyu's Untouched Scores vol. 1-3 should probably have just one page. Moogy (talk) 09:06, 4 May 2007 (PDT)

Touhou 9.8 - Scarlet Weather Rhapsody?

Isn't there a Touhou 9.8 that is being planned for release? I hear it's a fighting game like IaMP, called 'Scarlet Weather Rhapsody' or something like that. I think it's official, but can someone confirm? If it is, shouldn't there be a page for it under Games?

             It's official, check out the IaMP Wiki or the official Tasofro website or 
             the Shrinemaiden forums for details.
             They probably haven't put a page up in this wiki yet.
Scarlet_Weather_Rhapsody - we made it but seems we forgot to link it.
It has been done. Now linked on the main page. --Leviathean 15:39, 5 June 2007 (PDT)
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody is 10.5 now.

New main page

Maybe I asked Lev to swap it too soon. The page is apparently buggy in some versions of Firefox. Does anyone know why? -7HS

You mean like the page moves left or right when you click on a link? I'm getting that and I have no idea why. -Ruka
-I'm trying to figure out what's going on with it. The current version is based on a partial version I had posted in the sandbox a while back. I had forgotten about it but people have since completed it. As I mentioned in the sandbox I truly did not know what I was doing when I did that. Basically I grabbed the code for the thing on the perfect memento main page that has the info in the top right, edited it mercilessly, figured out how to align multiple of them side by side, and inserted different information. Now, when I edit the partial design that's still in the sandbox so that it'll actually have links in it, it doesn't do this weird thing in the preview. So I think whatever small changes were made to that code between then and now may be the cause, maybe. It's working fine in safari though, it's just firefox.
-I changed the width value from a percent (was at 100%) to a fixed number (now at 30em, whatever that means). The first try I had missed one width value, leaving it at 100%, and it only shifted a little, and when I changed that to 30em too it stopped shifting entirely. I still don't know the reason firefox acted like that, but it seems to have been the width value causing it. I might try some other things later, because having a percent instead of a fixed number would probably be ideal if it can work. -Redpanda
Dang. I prefer not having a fixed width, since my browser window is pretty narrow and doesn't quite hold 30em... but if that's what it takes to make it work in most people's browsers, oh well. (I also use Safari.) -7HS
After blindly trying one adjustment after another, it turns out the solution was to simply change all of the "float: left" to "float: center" and it works fine at 100% width, no need for a fixed value. I still don't know what all the code means, but I think I understand about 3/4 of it now. -Redpanda
It works perfectly now! -Ruka

hmmm shouldn't the Gensokyo link on the front page go to http://pooshlmer.com/touhouwiki/index.php/Gensokyo ? instead of the timeline which has been redirected to that page anyways.

Indeed, but we're still witing for someone with mod/admin power to do so. But considering that it's been 2 months since the change and nothing done, I'm considering changing the page to a proper redirect instead.-Umhyuk

Image Categories

I saw that there was over 1,500 images that needed a category (before I started categorizing some of them) and it's in the list of things to do in the community portal page, but there's some things I'm not sure of. Normally I'd look at previous examples and do it the same way but I'm not 100% sure which category to put some things in and so many images don't have a category it's hard to find good examples of it done right. For example- The TH7.5 cover is in the "Game covers" category, but not in the "Immaterial and Missing Power" category. Should I add it to that one as well? I already put the cover for EoSD in both the EoSD and Game covers categories. I also noticed that there was one image from all 222 Imperishable Night Spell Cards that was in a category called that, so I put everything up to 191 in there. I didn't put any of them in the Imperishable Night category though, but should they be in both? I figured I should stop there to find out so I don't have to recategorize 200+ images. I also don't know how to make new categories, or maybe I just forgot, or maybe I can't. Spell Card categories exist for 4 games but none of the rest so the majority of all spell card images have no category to be put into. -Redpanda

All you need to do to make a new category is put a page into it. Don't hesitate to do so if you feel it's potentially useful, IMO. -7HS
So normally a spell card category would look like this- Root > Games > Game Images > Screenshots > Imperishable Night Screenshots > Imperishable Night Spell Cards
But I don't know how to get the Mountain of Faith Spell Cards category I made to go through all those sub categories. I had thought it'd just automatically find its way into "Root" and then someone would move it later, but as it is it seems the only way to get to the MoF Spell Card category right now is to go to an image in that and click the category's name on that page. But at least I've reduced the amount of uncategorized images by I think around 300ish. (edit) and I just realized how to make subcategories XP -Redpanda

I want to categorize all of the couple hundred replays without any category since they're filling up the "uncategorized images" special page and almost everything left there now is a replay. It seems like they'd go in the "Replays" category, but a huge portion of them aren't linked to from any page and seem to be unused. What's up with that? Are these hundreds of replays waiting to be added to a page and still have never been, or did they used to be linked to from someone's page and now for some reason they're just floating around unused? I suppose I'm wondering if they're something that needs to be kept (and so should be categorized while they're here) or if I shouldn't bother because they could all be cleaned out at any time? Even among the ones actually in the replay category it looks like many are unused, and replays are nearly the sole reason the "unused files" special page has 175 files sitting around doing nothing. -Redpanda

Er, people upload replays here and link them at the message board (and other various places, I expect). The wiki's treated as a bit of a replay dump, so deleting the uncategorized/unused ones would be a rather bad idea. Moogy (talk) 18:57, 1 August 2007 (PDT)
I'll just categorize them then. That alone will get the uncategorized images page down to being nearly all clean. -Redpanda

Format: Return to...

* Return to (the parent page) appears at the top of very nearly every page on the TouhouWiki. This looks awful, is terribly unnecessary, and tends to shift all of the actual content downward on the page.

Cut it out, please.

I'm not sure when or why it was decided to handle it that way, but that's how it's been as long as I've been here. Personally I would rather it wasn't handled like exactly that, but I don't see it as a significant design problem. Actually, the way I was taught web design, a good navigation design for a page will always provide the user a way of getting back to the page they were at before without having to click the back button at the top of a browser window. The back button at the top is the user's way of saying the website wasn't designed well enough for that person to get where they want and so they have to force the site to take them somewhere instead of just transitioning within the site's design alone. The back button doesn't always take you back where you need either. For example, if I'm looking at the recent changes and see Reimu's MoF scenario has been edited I'll click on that. I might then want to then look at Marisa's scenario next for whatever reason but clicking the back button will only take me back to the recent changes page, not the MoF translations page. I'd have to go clear back to the Touhou Wiki main page first. The way pages cross reference each other and link all over the place around here there's any number of other cases where I'll end up on a page several layers down without having had gone directly there through the main page. -Redpanda
* Return to (the parent page) also appears at the bottom of every page. Heaven forbid a user be forced to scroll downward, or simply strike the End key.
You, and really anyone else, are welcome to change it to some better method if you so wish. -Redpanda
"Return to main page" is always unnecessary, since you have a link to that (two even) on the sidebar to the left. As for subpages, they are named wrong. Imperishable Night: Spell Cards for instance should be named Imperishable Night/Spell Cards. A return link is then formed automagically right under the page name. It also allows better navigation. I really suggest that someone in charge here considers it and runs a bot to fix everything once and for all. 83.26.203.43 08:00, 4 April 2008 (PDT)

Addition: Iosys flashes.

How about adding a page with all of the iosys flashes? (at least, the touhou ones.)

The IOSYS page links to their homepage, where they keep all the flashes anyway, although it might be a bit difficult for non-speakers to navigate. Depends what other people think. Trithne 19:32, 26 December 2007 (PST)

Akyu's Untouched Score

pages for 4 and 5 are ready, just change vol3 into 4/5 for the link.

Inabas & SDV

Shouldn't Inaba of the Moon and Inaba of the Earth and Seasonal Dream Vision be included under "Print Works"? -Winane 19:05, 12 February 2008 (PST)

Files for deletion

I know how to flag users for blocking (Category:Spammers), and how to flag pages for deletion (Category:Pages for deletion), but I haven't seen any similar way to flag uploaded files for deletion. Is there any standard way to do that here? (Question prompted by Image:1204337405168.gif.) -Winane 00:37, 16 March 2008 (PDT)

F10 game freeze button not mentioned

I've discovered and confirmed that pressing F10 in all Touhou games makes the game freeze (pause without showing the pause menu). Apparently this is registered in replays in all Touhou games except TH10 (not confirmed).

Pressing the down key after freezing the game with this method will show the window system menu (click on the little application icon in the title bar of your web browser to see what I mean). This suggest that it's not a feature in the game but a bug caused by window handler in the Windows operating system.

I'm wondering if this should be mentioned somewhere on the wiki (especially if it is possible to cheat with it in TH10 replays) and if so, where should it be mentioned and how?

  • In all gameplay sections?
  • Under a special section?
  • As a bug or a feature?

--Svinto 23:19, 13 April 2008 (GMT+1)

(Oops. Forgot to login before posting.)

TH01

I'm pretty sure there's no The in the English subtitle. Somebody correct me if I'm horribly wrong. TMN 20:41, 24 April 2008 (PDT)

Mass 503 errors

Is anyone else getting repeated 503 Service Not Availible errors trying to browse the wiki? It's a right pain. Trithne 23:30, 9 May 2008 (PDT)

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