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cross-promotion between wikis focused on Japanese makers?

Some examples can be seen at the main pages of AliceSoft Wiki, as well as the "Related Communities" module box in the sidebar, where wikis dedicated to TYPE-MOON, SNK, and other Japanese game makers are linked to. I would like to advocate similar footers be added to the bottom of the main page here (for TYPE-MOON and/or whichever ones the community here sees fit). To change what's in the Related Communities sidebar box (which all anon-visitors see), admins can edit MediaWiki:Monaco-related-communities. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 05:31, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi all, since nobody else has commented on this topic, I'm going to be bold and experiment on the main page with the cross-promotion footer, and see how the feedback goes. Of course, if everyone hates it, it can/will be removed. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 02:48, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Main page layout update

Hullo! I am Kirkburn, your friendly local Wikia Gaming Helper!

Hopefully you have read about the skin and ad changes at Wikia's New Style on Central Wikia. If not, I hope you'll have a look.

One of the changes is a block of two ads on each main page. It's possible that they won't always show up, but to ensure your main page continues to work properly when they do, you need to update your main page column formatting code with new column tags.

I have drafted a main page using the new tags on User:Kirkburn/Dev which I hope you can take a look at - feel free to make a copy and edit it. Though the layout may seem restrictive at first, there really is a fair amount you can do with them - for example see these customized main pages - Muppet Wiki, WoWWiki, FFXIclopedia. You may want to chat with your wiki community about what direction to take with a new main page.

If you encounter any problems with the new tags, please let us know.

My apologies for any inconvenience these changes bring.
Thank you for your time, Kirkburn (talk) 11:24, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I've switched to the updated layout! Enjoy. Kirkburn (talk) 13:21, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Uhm... and that... <insert vulgar word here> is supposed to be what? Not better than the old one at least... Arget, (talk) 16:05, 1 September 2008 (GMT +1)
This "updated layout" wants to make me rip my eyes out. I want the old one back, pronto. --ArseneLupin3 15:29, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
User:Rukaroa and I have made some tweaks to attempt make it look better. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 18:00, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Fair change - it does fit by the intro paragraphs. Kirkburn (talk) 14:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I saw the Lyrics section put it's not place in the Main Page in the Wiki... I supposed i should put right? -Dandan550 15:43, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Duel of the Earthworms: 〜 vs ~

The links to game titles are edited on the main page like this; TH11 東方地霊殿 〜 Subterranean Animism. But look at [this page]. The letter between Japanese & English words is "~" (fullwidth tilde), not "〜" (wave dash). Normally Japanese people don't use or see a wave dash, because a Japanese version of keyboard don't have a key of wave dash, but fullwidth dash (shift+^). Is there any reason why wave dash is used there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Masuo64 (talkcontribs) 19:07, September 16, 2008 (UTC)

The wave dash can't even be input on any kind of IME. I'm not sure where it came from, but whoever is using it needs to stop. Darkslime 23:37, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
for whatever reason, the jp.wikipedia uses wave dashes for all touhou games. eww eww eww. I'm tempted to change it, but that just sounds bad to do. Elm-39 - T/C 10:16, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Categorize this wiki

Touhou Wiki is still not categorized in wikia:c:gaming:Portal:Full Wiki List. We have 2120+ articles as of now, that would reward us an orange star. We just need to decide in which category Touhou should be. --TOUHOU-Miles 00:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

An orange star? Sign me up! Really, though, the Shooter category is best for Touhou. We'll be a little out of place among Doom and Halo, but then again, Pokemon is in the Fighting category, so whatever works is fine. glasnost0 01:04, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Action is probably the best place for Touhou, because even though most of the game are the shmups, there are also the fighting games. A happy medium, or something like that.NForza 08:16, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

World record link on front page

can we please get a link to world records under misc? 76.126.66.123 08:00, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

whether or not period mark is needed at the end of each title?

ZUN's manner is to put a period, or full stop, at the end of each title. And The current top page omits it. 東方Wiki or Japanese Wikipedia follows the former style while English Wikipedia follows the latter style. I don't think English manner is bad, but what is the criterion? We're spelling the name at the index name as ZUN spellt in PMiSS and setting memos, regardless of how in body text. It shows we're to spell as ZUN does, then why is the current top page is like that? --Masuo64 13:06, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I had it in my head that that had ended as of "Mountain of Faith," but I looked into it, and discovered that you're right. I just checked Zun's blog announcement for UFO, and even today, he still uses periods in his titles. Though, as far as I'm aware, the only actual title screen to use a period is that of "Immaterial and Missing Power." All others are bereft of periods, if I recall correctly (probably because of the style of the typefaces the titles are written in, I'd wager). If it were a personal call on my part, I'd say not to worry about a period (as opposed to, say, apostrophes or commas, whose placement I'd be far more worried about), and I'd even suggest against it, as in my opinion titles with periods look awkward and strange. However, I can't make that call. But I couldn't tell you which way to call it, either, as I don't know which way he'd say it's official. Can anyone provide more insight?--AceOfHeartsDX 02:19, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion that we add more categories

Each official title has its particular pages; for example, Story, Strategy, Character, Spell Card, which Wikipedia is likely to have but touhou wiki doesn't have. Now I want to suggest to you that we make new categories. The categories of my idea are like this:
1. Official works: Official Game, Offcial CD, Offcial Book.
2. Things about official works: Game Play, Story, Character, Music, Strategy, Miscellaneous. Perhaps it's needed to add Frame Data, Netplay to them.
3. Doujin works: Doujin Game, Doujin Book, Doujin CD. (But I suspect we have difficulty of making these categories because of the enormous number...)
These may be a little short, but we can make new categories except these. At least, the categories of official works are necessary, I believe. --Masuo64 12:54, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe we should add categories separating doujin circles that do manga from anthologies. That way, we could categorize which doujin circles participated in which anthologies. jpp8 19:53, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Adding the "ability" topic in characters.

I will add the Ability in all characters. Suggesting the ones who appeared very commonly and detailed by the fans. If anyone want to say about this idea please inform to me. Dandan550 14:31, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

P.S i will start first on Reimu Hakurei since she had the longest storyline histoy.

shld be fine, i'll edit if necessary..Wrathie 14:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Please add the characters appearances in printed works; in Inaba of the Moon and Inaba of the Earth appearance Mokou, Keine, Sakuya, Meirin, Alice, Wriggle, Rinnosuke, Akyu, Suwako, Aya and Reimu. And a little appearances of Nitori, Remilia, Patchouli, Flandre, Komachi and Mistya. Are importante the appearances in Strange and Bright Nature Deity, Eastern and Little Nature Deity, Cage in Lunatic Rungate, Silent Sinner in Blue, Memorizable Gensokyo, Bohemian Archive in Japanese Red and Curiosities of Lotus Asia.

Whoa~! I post soon. Taking huges time to think for. Dandan550 06:40, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Character name pronunciation

If anyone actually wants me to do this, I can. Although, TouhouWiki doesn't have a multi-listen item format. Someone add it. Drake 06:26, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Like this?


Th08wriggle01

Name:

リグル・ナイトバグ
Wriggle Nightbug
[ɹɪɡɫ ˈnaɪtˌbʌg]

Species:

Youkai Insect

Abilities:

Manipulation of insects

Age:

Unknown

Occupation:

Unknown

Location:

Unknown, last seen roaming a typical forest path

Description:

  • Blue eyes, teal hair, bug-like antennae. Wears a white shirt with stylised short sleeves, a black cape (red on inner side), and knee-length blue baggy pants.

Relationships:

  • Unknown

Appearances:

Titles:

See Character Titles

Does this meet your expectation? --Masuo64 07:16, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
In truth, almost no native English speakers can read that system lol... I notice drake uploaded a sound file, which could work, or we could make a small guide for pronouncing Japanese (just how to sound out the vowels should be enough) like the wiki system. Oreng3 09:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Using aquestalk, a TTS software, we can make an approximate sound like this. Do you suggest we upload such a sound file & make a link to it? --Masuo64 17:12, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

I was actually just thinking of uploading voice clips from people who can actually speak instead of a program. I have 20 different names ready to put up, and more if possible. Wikipedia has a a bunch of functions that might work, but it doesn't look like Touhouwiki has any of these options. How would one go about putting them up? wikipedia:Audio_templates

(♫)

This will work I am amazing. ~Drake not logged in —Preceding undated comment added 00:41, April 17, 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, Drake. But, are you a native Japanese? From your pronunciation I guess you're non-native, because Your uploaded file has stress accent, while Japanese language has pitch accent. As a trial, what do you think about My uploaded file, Suika & Sanae? --Masuo64 13:56, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Aha, no, I'm not. I'm Canadian. Actually, I haven't even taken any classes. The only references I have for accents is neckbreak-pace stuff, which is hard to figure. It's like trying to learn a french accent from a Quebecois; doesn't work. I can see how mine and yours differ, though, which is definitely a plus. I just have a problem with the dullness in your voice, no offense~ Drake 18:38, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, I've never realized my pronunciation is dull. But my pronunciation is unclear, and my environment might not fit to record, my ogg file hasn't enough quality. So, you might as well go ahead, Drake. --Masuo64 10:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Maybe we should use aquestalk, instead, like you suggested. Or, although I don't know if other people would like it, using the softalk ("yukkuri") voice might be amusing... Oreng3 04:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Softalk doesn't work, because softalk isn't able to make the sound with the high accent on the first syllable. Aquestalk had better be used. Well... Tomorrow or the day's after tomorrow afternoon, I'll record again my voice for many characters of Japanese, European, & Chinese names, taking attention for volume & pronunciation. (Will do at least Japanese pronunciation. My English pronunciation might be bad, but I'll record. If that's not OK... I'll think at the time.) If those recorded file aren't worth using, I'll prepare the sound file with aquestalk (Japanese pronunciation) for many characters of Japanese, European, & Chinese names. So, wwit a moment please... --Masuo64 16:05, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Added sound files of EoSD characters at first. What I must say is; thank you, Drake. My English pronunciation is much worse than what I expected... And particularly your French sound brighten Flandre with the echo of French sound. Very good quality. Next, I'll go to PCB's characters. But, sleepy now. Good night... --Masuo64 16:55, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Spoilers in the Wiki August 2009

Moved to Touhou Wiki talk:Copyrights

Spoilers in the Wiki September 2009

Because this issue is coming up (and understandably so) time and again, I propose that information, text, or pictures that one could only know from seeing an ending by beating a game should be removed and restricted as encountered.

So if info from a previous game's ending becomes available as it is mentioned in a future game's playthrough, it will become legit.

So that Suwako had Kappa helping her is dialogue from Sanae's Th12.3 Scenario that comes before beating it and seeing the ending, that info can be present.

But for people who are getting into Touhou, and because similar to Wikipedia, there are no spoiler tags here as far as I can see, but because visitors will come in the midst of playing through a Touhou game, it would be inconsiderate to have spoilers as described above.

I haven't had a chance to play through UFO yet, but from reading the tidbits here it's been spoiled for me. That's obviously not a big deal, but given the volume of visitors, particularly near a release date or after a release, a mass of spoilage, whether it be a picture or text conveying info only knowable from seeing an ending, should be given due consideration, and I believe, removed or restricted. I hope as with the romanization discussion that others will weigh in to either change or preserve whatever the current policy is. TheTrueBlue 16:14, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

I was initially under the impression that ZUN had changed his policy regarding use of his materials. After the regular translators had another look at it it was apparent that ZUN in fact had not changed his policy since 2 years ago, thus I see no reason to change the consensus regarding spoilers we've allays adhered to.
A "Here be spoilers" on the main page however is something that escaped implementation for some reason, fixing it now.--Umhyuk 16:39, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
Or we can use spoiler warnings or hide spoilers somehow with code. We don't need to follow what Wikipedia does. My reading of ZUN's guideline certainly doesn't bar the discussion of ending material. _dk 22:25, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
By discussing do you mean posting about endings in forums? Or openly permitting text that reveals things only knowable if one were to see an ending to be inserted anywhere in articles here on Touhou wiki. The first is obviously true and permissible and widespread, the second might be troubling for reasons I previously posted.
Spoiler code is an excellent idea, and one that's widely implemented on countless forums. That would work beautifully.
Unfortunately I think one has to be an admin to add or remove code permissions? Unless Touhou wiki already had such a feature?
TheTrueBlue 22:58, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
The second point is what I'm talking about. Well, but if you agree with the spoiler code idea then I guess this issue is settled. We can have spoilers that can be seen only when highlighted like this. Or revealed on mouseover, whatever works. _dk 23:32, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
Yes, the highlight option looks pretty good, just a standard "Spoiler: Spoiler goes here" .
Now everything that reveals something one could only see from beating a Touhou game and seeing an ending; that's further not revealed in a future game, will ideally have "Spoiler: Spoiler goes here". To protect the unwary. TheTrueBlue 00:07, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

(unindent) I've made a simple template that makes hiding text easier, like this, invoked by {{hidetext|insert spoiler here}}. There also is a little-used template {{spoiler}} that makes this appear:

Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow.

Though I don't know how we can use this. _dk 00:57, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

The spoiler code idea is good, but I wouldn't even consider "X is in Y's ending" to be a spoiler in the first place, unless Y was thought to be dead or something. --TheSinnerChrono 01:03, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
Well I think it can get tricky making those kinds of calls and proposed the above criteria - As long as it's something you'd have to see an ending to know. It can be considered a spoiler. So knowing that character A makes an appearance in character B's ending, being something only revealed when you see an ending, fits into this category. Of course this kind of info is less harmful than something spoilerific like RON MARRIES HERMONIE, but although it's for those kinds of possible disasters that I hope this system will come in handy, there are also lesser threats that it could help with. It couldn't hurt, simply having to highlight something. TheTrueBlue 01:09, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
It's kinda disturbing... like censored or so. Why do we had to censored about the extra ending since it's writed on the scripts. -Dandan550 02:02, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
I've sometimes wished I could remove black box censorship from tv shows just by highlighting it with my mouse. TheTrueBlue 02:07, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
Well, to get to extra in the first place, you have to beat the game. Since you can't know anything about the extra stages until you beat the main game first, those can technically be considered spoilers... I guess. jpp8 02:13, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
I don't think that could be implemented too easily. Extra stages involve gameplay and not the picture+text format that Touhou endings have always been delivered as. Besides, who could play through a Touhou danmaku game and NOT at least beat extra. That's where the sexiest bosses always lie in wait. In any case, I would not be in support of blackboxing Extra stage material. TheTrueBlue 02:23, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
>Touhou fans should be able to at least be able to beat extra.
Well, there's the fact that a decent amount of the western fanbase already have trouble 1CCing Normal and not to mention the fact that there a noteworthy number of fans only in it for the doujinshi, music, etc. and have no intention of ever beating the games. But I digress. jpp8 02:33, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

So... What the hell do we do with Ruukoto? jpp8 15:59, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Is there something that should be done with Ruukoto? TheTrueBlue 17:03, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
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