Naming PC-98 characters[]
I'm really quite worried about this now. It seems that ever since Rengeteki was named, more people want to name characters from PC-98 that do not have names. While it may make it easier to refer to these characters, I wonder if the sudden action will annoy both English-speaking and Japanese fans. Rengeteki was named by me, an American. My original intention was that she be noticed. I loved her design when I saw it, and I just had to do something. However, I messed up because I thought her name meant "mystic lotus" like I had hoped it would, when it actually meant "lotus-like". Mokutou's name was correct, but there was problems with the kanji used. The Japanese may form stereotypes about fans who do not know Japanese well(Who they see as foreign) as a result of this. It may seem like that we're trying to be...how should I put it..."cool" by showing that we can name characters too. It might not be as much as a problem if we can just do it right. I'm not saying that Mokutou was messed up as well, there was just a mistake with the kanji itself, and not the meanings. Unless that means the same thing. I'm not trying to criticize the person who named her. I'd like to hear what other people think about this...maybe I'm just worrying too much...--Pretztailfan95 22:15, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
- Well we could create a section on characters called Unknown Name Characters or Unofficially named characters. I don't want to create it because apparently anything that I create is deleted...so yeah :P MaronaPossessed 22:25, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
- I say we go with Marona's idea. Fairy Maid 02:45, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
- As in "the exact same thing this category achieves"? I have trouble seeing it very different from what this category was created to do. Also since Pretztailfan95 just confessed to pulling the names "Rengeteki" and "Mokutou" out of his ass without any basis on what is popular in the community(are the characters ever referenced by the community?) I'll change them around to the same standard the Catfish has.--Umhyuk 16:18, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
- I agree with Marona. But, I also beleive that the only reason that these people are doing this is because they want these midbosses to be recognized. They feel as if Japan is ignoring these characters and they want that to change. It's not bringing any harm to anybody. I'm getting tired of all the changes going on around here because people can't reach an agreement. It seems as people are just overreacting over the name of characters. --FlowerofDreams 8:44, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
- This is a serious Wiki(ie. not Encyclopedia Dramatica) and serious Wikis should strive to report the topic/community they are covering as objectively as possible. Preaching and campaigning over a character belong in message boards or chats, not wikis, and imposing a fanmade name onto a character certainly fall under that. If you want recognition for the character, brew up something interesting in a message board and get the community with you, then you can think of adding it to the wiki.--Umhyuk 17:02, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
- First of all, Umhyuk I'm a girl. Second of all, I did not name Mokutou. I named only Rengeteki. Why don't we just go with Marona's idea instead of you changing the names? Besides, Rengeteki was actually getting popular. She even has a Create.swf! Shouldn't that be enough?--Pretztailfan95 23:48, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
- I'm in the camp of unnamed characters being exactly that in this wiki, unnamed. "Five Magic Stones" is OK, since that is exactly what it is, visually. I would accept "Giant Catfish" too instead of "Unnamed Giant Catfish". But Tokiko has always bugged me. Fannames is at best a Fun Fact imo.--Umhyuk 23:56, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
- You know you didn't have to be rude to the user who bought up the midbosses. You could've just removed that and state the reason. Not be a mean, bullying person and say "Name pulled out of a single user's ass." No wonder why people are afraid to add stuff, like me, because there are rude people like you. Now 2 people agree against you that Regeteki is growing a bit. Now then in short: If you have nothing nice to type or say then don't do it at all and be an ass against stuff you don't like. MaronaPossessed 00:44, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Because me and my friends use a particular word, not in the dictionary, often does that mean I can barge in to the publishing house and rewrite their dictionary to what a couple of friends and me are using? No. If the publishing house is to add the word to their dictionary it has to be a used word amongst a significant portion of the populace.
- This wiki just so happens to have that position in the English speaking Touhou community, and objectivity on pages relating to the official canon is something we strive for here. Anyone with the slightest bit of shame and common sense should know better than to try using it to push their own fanmemes(this discussion) or their side of political bickering(SWR wiki fiasco). And if it was not known that this wiki had this position, common internet sense says to lurk and learn before barging into a community with a glorious faux pas.
- If the majority of the whole touhou community adopts the names I guess they could be changed back as per Tokiko precedence, but anyone actually reading what I've typed would know that I certainly don't agree with the whole Tokiko thing either.
- As for "rude." Blunt is how I do things, I regard those able to see the point rather than blindly seeing only the way it's presented are people worth my time.--Umhyuk 02:32, March 1, 2010 (UTC)